Monday, August 13, 2007

More on Margaret Somerville, SSM and Polygamy

Liberal blogger Koby, who provided a great comment on my weekend post "Why is Margaret Somerville so obsessed with attacking same-sex marriage?", has posted two insightful pieces on his own blog.

Both great reads and worth checking out.


Joanne (True Blue) said...

Good letter in today's Post:

No stopping polygamy
National Post
Published: Tuesday, August 14, 2007

Re: Criminal Act Or Religious Right? Aug. 11.

Kudos to Jason Gratl, president of the B.C. Civil Liberties Association, for pointing out the obvious: abusive, insular attitudes take hold in many monogamous marriages, yet no one is suggesting we wipe out that institution. Arguments concerning polygamy as religious freedom are red herrings.

Non-religious polyamory (humanist polygamy) is no more harmful to society than gay marriage. Can we not further re-define marriage to accommodate this preference? Is polyamory a choice or a fixed orientation? Is it possible that a small minority find monogamy unnatural? Didn't gay rights advocates render nature vs. nurture arguments irrelevant?

Yes, polygamy/polyamory is morally unpopular, but McGill University professor Katherine Young is correct: The legalization of same-sex marriage has changed the rules.

Jack Chambers, Langley, B.C.

Now, personally, I don't think that gay marriage alone is "to blame". It is just one more incident along the way. It started long ago with the Charter, increased immigration and the related diversity of ethnic norms, and the liberalization of attitudes towards social values in general.

I'm not saying we can go back. I don't think anyone is saying that. I'm just saying, let's get real.

Matt Guerin said...

On this subject, I think I agree with Koby earlier that gay marriage was the result of the changing nature of marriage in society. Society had decided that heterosexual marriage was no longer primarily about wealth transfers, or child rearing. It was about two adults committing for life. Children were not prerequisites. Thus gay marriage flowed from the new definition of marriage. It wasn't a huge leap. Polygamy/polyamory would be a huge leap. I think the evolving nature of marriage started long before the Charter. It started in the 60s. We don't need to blame immigrants or the Charter. But yes society has become more liberal on this for sure. Has same sex marriage changed the rules, like Jack Chambers claims? I don't think so.