Friday, August 17, 2007

John Tory on Landmark Education and Howard Hampton on making cities' dreams come true

Just a couple of points about the two main opposition parties today at Queen's Park.

This story about the recent Ontario Conservative Leadership Foundation meeting is both funny and alarming.

For more information on Landmark Education, check out its Wikipedia page (assuming Tories haven't already doctored its contents.)

Royson James was bang-on with his assessment today of Howard Hampton's plans for cities.

Oh, to be a New Democrat under Howard Hampton! You can promise the world, engage in the most irresponsible rhetoric imaginable. And never have to deliver on it.

Remind me again why we have an NDP! Oh, yeah, to divide the progressive vote and make it easier for the Tories and their Landmark Education plans to win.

Have a great weekend.


northwestern_lad said...

wow... I guess we NDPers should just fold up our tents and go home then, right... haha... I guess we should get behind this Liberal government that has lied and broken more promises than the Blue Jays have wins this year, and we are supposed to believe them???? Get real. Of course, you bash the NDP for their concrete ideas, which municipalities across Ontario have been begging for (which your Liberals have refused to deliver) and don't offer any solutions.

If you call offering to pay for what the Province is legally mandated to pay for irresponsible, then I think you need to either rethink your comments or take out a dictionary to find the definition of irresponsible. Obviously, to you irresponsible means "to have a different opinion/idea that will actually force others to act".

And, by the way, why do we have the NDP??? Because the Liberals haven't earned the support of those NDP voters with their actions and deeds. You want to unify the left, then start keeping promises and being truly transparent. That would be a good start.

Matt Guerin said...

Okay, okay. You're entitled to your opinion on the NDP and I'm entitled to mine. Personally I think the NDP promises on this are "pie in the sky" and sound like something Hampton never thinks (honestly) can ever be implemented. But he doesn't need to worry about that. They are advocates, not serious contenders for power. And there are plenty of NDP lies on record, too, don't forget - remember 1990 to 1995. I sure do.

Sure the NDP has a role to play in raising issues - like the $10 right now minimum wage pledge - which would hurt small businesses right now. We also have more credible, non-partisan advocates out there advocating the same thing. But this has pushed the Libs to adopt the more sensible, phasing in of the minimum wage increase. Which I agree is a good thing.

It's just the NDP only seems to advocate policies that could never be implemented as is. They act like advocates, not a credible political party aiming to possibly implement their pledges into action.

GuruTruth said...

Dear Matt Guerin,
Thanks for bringing this information to light.

A bit more information on the controversial organization now known as Landmark Education, with previous incarnation EST under Werner Erhard.

There are links to lots of additional audio/visual resources as well, let me know what you think.


Landmark Education is conducted in a Large Group Awareness Training setting, information about it and its "The Forum" course, previously known as "The Forum" under Werner Erhard and Associates, the "technology" of which was developed by Werner Erhard and utilized in his prior "EST Training" or "Erhard Seminars Training" - is available through the links below:

A documentary came out in France, Voyage to the Land of the New Gurus, which details some of the for-profit company's interesting practices. The film aired to 1.5 million people in France. One month after it aired, the company shut down in France. The company attempted to use the Digital Millenium Copyright Act in order to get this video off the internet. More about this at Landmark Education stumbles stupidly to hollow settlement, Landmark Education wants to make French news report a “forbidden video” on the Net and at Why did Landmark Education leave France? as well as at the Electronic Frontier Foundation's legal page, Landmark and the Internet Archive and in an article from Reuters which went into The Washington Post and The Los Angeles Times, among many other papers, at Google faces legal challenges over video service.

Landmark Education has been labeled "sect" by the government of France, a "sect" by the government of Austria. They were investigated multiple times by the United States Federal Department of Labor - and an investigation in 2004 by the Federal Department of Labor in France led to Landmark Education shutting down their operations in all of France due to unpaid labor practices.

Landmark Education is currently a defendant in a wrongful death case in Oklahoma, and also a young man named James Brian Rowe went missing in Colorado directly after attending a Landmark Forum in 2004. His family has not heard from him since.

More information about the company's history itself, at The Rick Ross Institute, the Skepdic site, Cult News, Introduction to the Landmark Education litigation archive, Landmark Education litigation archive, Apologetics Index, and Cult Awareness and Information Centre. The book OUTRAGEOUS BETRAYAL by Steven Pressman is also a great resource. Chapter 4, A Door to Door Mind Salesman, and Chapter 7, Enlightenment in Two Weekends - The est Training are available online.

For more information about other Large Group Awareness Training organizations and their methodologies, visit:

The Truth about Human Potential Seminars

northwestern_lad said...

See Matt... the problem I have here is that Liberals keep saying that these things cannot be done, until they take the ideas and do it themselves. And of course, the NDP has been able to do this kind of stuff in other provinces, like Manitoba and Saskatchewan, and have done it well, with less means than Ontario and have done it while running balanced budgets. Public Auto Insurance is a great example of that. Don't forget that if the NDP don't form the government, it's very likely that they will hold the balance of power in a minority government. So if you think that Hampton is just making promises without having to implement them, that's foolish because having that balance of power would put him in a position to make that happen.

As for the credible party part, I guess being at around 20% in the Ontario polls doesn't pass as credible today, hey??? Come on, it's in the Liberals best interests to keep the NDP down, and can't stand the fact that because of their poor work that they are loosing votes and seats to the NDP. How many by-elections did the NDP win during the life of this legislature??? 3,4??? If the Liberals want to keep up throwing mud at the NDP for dealing with the issues of the people rather than actually coming up with constructive ideas of their own, they do so at their own peril.

Jim Day said...

I can understand the concern wrt Landmark Education; if all one had to go on in evaluating the organization is what is written on the internet, there is no way they would want to have anything to do with it. Ip until January of 2007, I was one of those "Landmark skeptics" myself. But after 3 friends raved about their experiences in the Landmark Forum over 6 months, I decided it wasn't really fair to judge the organization without having experienced it myself.

What has followed since then has been nothing short of extraordinary. Only a month after taking the Forum and Advanced Course, I was invited to serve as a visiting professor in one of the first MBA programs in Mozambique.

In the span of the next six months, I not only taught the MBA course, but graduated from law school, business school, studied for and passed the New York State Bar Examination, visited an ecovillage in South America, moved to New York City, and began working at a major law firm.

While it is true that some of these things would have happened even if I hadn't taken some of Landmark's courses, I can't say they would have been as enjoyable. Even better is that both of my parents have also since taken the Forum, and have an entirely new marriage and relationship with me. The whole thing has just been awesome.

A lot of people think Landmark is some sort of cult because they read stories like mine and think they can't be real. But they are real...we just aren't used to seeing for-profit organizations produce these sorts of results. Before judging Landmark, I encourage one to try it out first. At the worst, you will have an informed opinion about whether Landmark is the type of organization it holds itself out to be. At the best, you might even get to experience some of what I have gotten over the past year.

At least visit websites like this one before forming a judgment:

It's only fair. Landmark isn't a perfect organization, but I have worked in many (including the military) and this one is the best I have seen.